supposedly the society sent a letter out on march 14, 1997 to all elders contained an instruction that inadvertently admitted they had a big problem: “the body of elders should give the society a report on anyone serving or who formerly served in a society-appointed position in your congregation who is known to have been guilty of child molestation in the past.” .
can anyone here confirm/or not that this was a real letter that was sent to elders?.
Supposedly the society sent a letter out on March 14, 1997 to all Elders contained an instruction that inadvertently admitted they had a big problem: “The body of Elders should give the Society a report on anyone serving or who formerly served in a Society-appointed position in your congregation who is known to have been guilty of child molestation in the past.”
Can anyone here confirm/or not that this was a real letter that was sent to elders?
i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.
some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.
some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.
Thank you
As I have said earlier I really don't think this is my story but in many ways all our stories. I have received a lot of good information here and this book could have never happened without this web site and the people on it.
And yes I have been corrected many times.
So thank you all once again.
i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.
some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.
some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.
Yes guys you are right, there wont be a list of names of people who have killed themselves because of being a Jehovah's Witness in my book, or anywhere else for that fact. They are lost forever to the memories of a few people who might who might know the truth about what they went through.
But wouldn't be nice for them if there be some kind of record of them someplace on the planet?
Maybe there should be something like a Viet Nam memorial to them. Maybe it would have all the names of the thousands of people who have killed themselves and have died because of the lack of a blood transfusion and lets put up there all the victims of sexual abuse while we are at it. Maybe we could put their names on a big black granite wall and maybe this wall could be right in front of 124 Columbia Heights building.... of course this will never happen but I can still dream,
To Steve and ExElder keep up the good work here. I'm sure in the end we all really what the same thing don't we? The destruction of false religion.
The funny thing is that is what the Jehovah's Witnesses want to, they just don't know they are part of the problem.
Blessings to all
Keith Casarona
i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.
some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.
some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.
The book will talk about why and how two people killed themselves. People that I hold myself partly responsible for there actions.
So don't worry guys there wouldn't be hundreds of random names listed.
I said this book would rile a lot of people up. I hasn't even been published yet and it looks like it has already accomplished that.
My the way what is your real name Exelder?.....lol....just kidding of course.
i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.
some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.
some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.
Thanks Sparky
I like your dedication, It will probably look something like that.
For the rest of you all I can say before you judge me and the information that will be given in this book please have to courtesy read it first. Then judge me as you will.
I hope it shakes a lot of people up.
No vengeance here. On the other hand if this information helps just a few people steer clear away something that will cause untold hurt to them and their next generations of families members it will be all worth it.
Yes some people might get upset because I relayed a true story about them. Yet their stories might save literally other people's lives.
So the choice is hurt feelings or other people's lives......
You decide I already have.
i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.
some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.
some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.
"I think it's better if people know what you're up-to."
What I'm up too?
Since no one here has read this book in its entirety, thanks for the judgement.
It's about real people with real names who have been who killed themselves while they were Jehovah's Witnesses.
What were the reasons they did this, I guess we'll never know. Do you think that guilt in some form could be responsible? The point is the organization who claim to be "The happiest people on Earth" are really just like all the other religions out there.
No that's no true they are not like most religions out there they are way worst.
Why is that? Because of the the amount of guilt they discriminate. Can you think of any other modern day religion that uses this kind of guilt? The Catholics use to. The Mormons....no. The society has fine tuned this guilt into an art form.
There is so much guilt and fear that the vast amount of members here (and many here have been out for years) are still scared to death about what this organization can still do to them or their families. Yes repercussions for standing up and speaking the real truth. So yes you think you are out but you are not really are you? Because of your friends families you are still roped and tied it. In truth most of you will never be out completely, how can you be?
You don't believe that is true? How many posters here have the courage to post their real names? Maybe a hand full. So yes in a sense they do still have control over you don't they. You are forced to play by their rules. That kind of power is terrifying!
That being the case, my guess is that they have a much higher rate of suicides among their members because of this factor.
You didn't like the way I gathered this information by talking to Jehovah's Witnesses. Like so many JWs they were willing to bend the rules and talk to me.
Now you are worried about repercussions they may receive for doing this.
True this may happen on the other hand maybe when they are hauled into that back room and interrogated. They too might get the epiphany "wow this is big brother from 1984" and maybe its time to leave Nazi Germany!
The bottom line is guys is every day people dying because of this nasty and toxic religion. I by myself can't stop this but I'm going to do everything in my power to slow up the process.
Keith Casarona
i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.
some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.
some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.
It fact this has really got ridiculous so if you could remove this whole thread that would be fine with me.
Your Brother
Keith Casarona
i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.
some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.
some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.
Everyone real names are used in the book.
The vast about of these people are dead. Some are still living and are in the old age home at Bethel.
I name the people in the stories (and on this site) because the stories were real events done by real people. They are not my prospective of events. I'm relaying the facts.
Of course there might law suits. I'm expecting them. Because of being raised as a witness and thus thinking Armageddon was coming any day made many bad financial decisions. Thus I have no assets. If they want to sue me get in line.
It's time for the truth about the truth.
On the other hand the one thing the society hates more then anything is publicity.
Yes a lot of research has gone into this book. I want to get it right. I have gathered a lot of information from this site as hundreds of other people have.
You have accused me of gather this information in an under handed way. I have talked many Jehovah's Witnesses and Non Jehovah's Witnesses. I have lied to none of them,
I'm not here to promote this book. I'm sorry if it has come off that way.
i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.
some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.
some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.
poopie
I can't get permission from dead people and I will not use fake names
Back to what this thread was about.
Exelder
Do you know anyone who killed themselves while they were Jehovah' Witness?
I knew of 12
I don't need their names. By the way I don't need or what your name.
Its a yes or no question. Don't worry by answering the question no one will find out who you are.
I'm curious why you left the religion. Care to share.
Thank you for the counsel
Your Friend Keith Casarona
i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.
some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.
some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.
Anger..... maybe the fact is this whole damn organization must come down! Will there be bodies? Yes
Are there bodies yes
it's a cancer. I'm alive but will soon be dead. Most of my life has been suck out of me. My family is dead my friends dead.
The bottom line is no one is going out of here alive.
So dance around all you want the bottom line is people are paying everyday.
The topic of this thread was SUICIDES....yet you are all worried about might happen to two elders wifes!!
I guess I'm taken crazy pills
